you lost an election they'll write about for decades. joe biden seems to be kicking the tires for a run in 2016. is he the guy, in your opinion, that can lead the democratic party forward and the nation forward? >> i'm going to resist getting drawn into this. >> come on, try. >> i love joe and there are others who, no doubt, will run. i do genuinely believe that just a week after we inaugurated president obama, it's premature to get into the horse race. >> have you watched television news? come on. this is what we do. >> i know, but that's also part of something we need to challenge. we went through 2012 with 60% of the country in drought, superstorm sandy, $110 billion of climate disasters and not one journalist anywhere in the u.s. asked any question during the debates about the biggest issue we're facing, the climate crisis. now the horse race stories are easy to write. and it's just a template that we get into. it's totally understandable. but we need to really dig in, in our democracy, the way we used to and grapple with the problem